Tag Archives: Debate

A Closing of the drysift Saga


Alright, this post has been long in coming, primarily because I’ve been a busy guy the past while. This topic deserves some kind of closer before I move on, considering the volume of traffic it generated and the strong feelings at play.

After the jump, I’ll throw up the links to the whole darn thing, as well as my articles on Occupy before my commentary. Those who are well and truly -done- with it all – never fear! You don’t have to hit ‘read more’.

There was also a show last night! I had fun, as did the 21 folks listening live. Many thanks to them!

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Response to an Occupy Sympathizer – PART THREE


[UPDATE 11/20/2011] New arrivals – please visit this story!  it details the incidents of occupy so far that I will put up in my next post that is CURRENTLY in progress! Thanks!

-Dougem

My initial impression of occupy. Please read!

Sneak peek of the photos I will use next post – occupy San Diego’s current presence. Quite small.

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Part 1

Part 2

What’s this? A twist?

“More bias. Blocked. I’ll be in tinychat.com/debate @ 7pm on Monday. Lets see how many people you can get to meet there.”

No, drysift, I’m not going to roll unless enough of my audience wants me to. I’ve brought up my concerns, fleshed them out in agonizing detail, and you’re leaving it all hanging unchallenged. Not only that – but you name a time and place – without even checking to see if I am able to go! Are you maximizing my chance of not being able to show, drysift, so that you can claim an empty victory?

My audience are free to go. I won’t encourage them to because I am willing to bet good money that it will just descend into a flame war – know this ahead of time folks. It’s your choice and yours alone.

So, audience – what do you think? I think it’s time for some direct democracy!

[UPDATE] This is what democracy looks like! The majority, 4 voters, felt drysift needs to respond to my rebuttals like any serious debater would. Thanks folks for putting up with this exercise in Drama. I promise we’ll be moving on shortly.

Responding to an Occupy Sympathizer Part 2


 

First part of this series can be found here

So! As stated earlier, drysift got back to me. If you haven’t read the first part, please do so – otherwise, if you enjoy things being way out of context or you’ve already caught up, the reply and my rebuttal can be found after the jump. Before I go further, a quick disclaimer: I know this person is not the entire Occupy movement, and I would -love- to speak to an Occupy San Diego person especially regarding some of my issues. As long as that person doesn’t behave like drysift here.

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An Open Response to an Occupy San Diego Sympathizer


No-one responded to my question about whether or not to respond openly to a pm I got – so I decided to go do it anyways! Below is the message in full. I understand it’s a busy week for everybody – but all the same I hope I get you folks on the weekend. The video in question is linked in my previous post

Quick note to site newbies, please read the about tab before jumping to conclusions about how I tick, kay?

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The Occupy Movement – A Critique of the Message


Well, this has certainly been long in coming. Last friday – October 7th – I went in person to observe the Occupy San Diego protest. I haven’t been able to do any follow up since, but I’m planning to drop by Civic Center Plaza sometime this week to take note of crowd sizes, and most especially how the message has evolved since day 1.

Before I went down, I had several questions buzzing around my mind. We already had two weeks of the Occupy movement taking place, varying in attendance from city to city, but with a few common themes – the 99% argument, a general attitude of anti-corporatism, and anti capitalism that seemed to have socialist sympathies. It was being sold as a noble movement – the oppressed, the homeless, the foreclosed, the unemployed lower classes rising up against the rich to call for economic fairness. The leftist version of the tea party, if you will -a  comparison that has been made many times – usually by those commenting from the leftist sphere of opinion.

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